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Follow Ziya on Twitter as Won't Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Once you’re able to see through the reality bubble, that is. Ziya Tong is the author of ' The Reality Bubble: Blind Spots, Hidden Truths, and the Dangerous Illusions that Shape Our World', a former co-host of Daily Planet on the Discovery Channel, and sits on the board of World Wildlife Fund International. Our 'reality bubbles' about work, the food system, technology, and our relationship to nature are being severely challenged, but the question remains whether we can seize this moment to build a better world in the pandemic's aftermath. In her new book Reality Bubble, Ziya Tong explains why many people are willfully ignorant about our food system. Tong also hosted the CBC’s Emmy-nominated series ZeD, PBS’ national prime-time series, Wired Science, and worked as a correspondent for NOVA scienceNOW.

She anchored Daily Planet, Discovery Channel’s flagship science programme, until its final season in 2018. Paris Marx is joined by Ziya Tong to talk about how COVID-19 is helping us to see the world in a new way, and how that might open the door to reimagining how we organize society. Ziya Tong is the Vice-Chair of WWF Canada.

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